NEWS: BA partner with Dettol, Scots told not to book for Easter & Loophole in Scotland’s quarantine & £1200 for testing positive

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British Airways partner with Dettol

When we think back to BA’s centenary year and the great partnerships they did with UK companies such as Hattingley Valley Sparkling Wine and Marmite, I don’t think any of us would have expected a partnership with Dettol on the cards! However, anything that keeps us safe when travelling is now of utmost importance! 

British Airways has today announced it will be partnering with hygiene brand Dettol, the UK’s no. 1 disinfection brand. From March 2021, British Airways’ customers will have access to a range of Dettol products, that are proven to kill 99.9% of bacteria and Coronavirus (SARS-COV-2)2, in the air and on the ground. The airline’s updated cleaning protocols using Dettol products, have been supported by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.

At Heathrow Terminal 5 Dettol hand sanitiser stations will be positioned at all check-in desks, self-service bag drop, lounges and at departure gates, replacing the current sanitisation stations with Dettol products. The airline will also use Dettol antibacterial wipes, cleaners and sprays to keep surfaces clean at the airport and in its lounges. Hand santisers vary wildly in my experience to some that have a very strange quality that are so slippery you can’t seem to get it dry and others that are like water. The Dettol ones may not be quite as nice as my favourite Aesop one, but they are reliable in terms of a good consistency and a trusted ability to kill viruses.

In the air, British Airways will be introducing a Dettol antibacterial hygiene wipe. Each customer will be handed a packet containing the wipe as they board the aircraft. Up to now you were handed an unbranded one. 

Carolina Martinoli, British Airways’ Director of Brand and Customer, said: “As we look forward to welcoming our customers back on board, we are proud to announce our partnership with Dettol, a trusted and well-known disinfection brand. At the start of the pandemic, we introduced a number of protective measures at each step of the customer journey, and we think our partnership with Dettol is a great addition.”

Rahul Kadyan Executive Vice President of Global Business Solutions for Reckitt Benckiser (RB) said: “Our collaboration with British Airways is exciting, since we both share the same objective to help protect travellers. This is an ideal partnership for RB, and Dettol, to help drive high standards in hygiene and reassure consumers they can enjoy the British Airways experience. Our brand is built on trust, scientific efficacy and our desire to educate consumers around the world to help break the chain of infection.”

Professor James Logan, a member of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, said: “Health based cleaning protocols and additional personal safety measures are one of the critical tools as we all work to re-open business and travel around the globe. We are proud to bring our expertise and knowledge to the COVID-19 response on a national and global scale. At the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine we are pleased to work with British Airways and RB employees to advise them on the programme.”

 

Opinion: The big loophole in Scotland’s quarantine rules & Scots told not to book for Easter

The rules of travel are getting ever more complex with Scotland and England going separate ways. I don’t really see the point of Scotland’s policy of quarantine for  all international arrivals, since very few arrive directly in Scotland anyway – most go via London which then absolves you of doing hotel quarantine unless you have come from a red list country. If so you will have to quarantine at your arrival airport before continuing to Scotland. If you fly to Scotland from any country in the Common Travel area such as Ireland or the Channel Islands, you only have to hotel quarantine if you are from a red list country. 

The official guidance says

You must also book and pay for managed isolation if you travel to Scotland from the Republic of Ireland, and have been in an acute risk country (a “red list” country) in the 10 days before your arrival.

“If you arrive in Scotland from within the Common Travel Area, but have been in a country not on the acute risk list in the 10 days before your arrival, you must self-isolate.

If these rules are here for safety – how can you possibly say that someone flying direct into Scotland from the US must pay £1750 for hotel quarantine, whereas someone on one ticket from the US who connects in the UK or Dublin, can self-isolate? From a virus point of view, I’m not sure Covid knows the difference! The point scoring between nations and ill-thought-out policies need to stop. Either protect the country properly or fall in the line with the English rules to make travel less confusing. 

Nicola Sturgeon also hinted today that travel restrictions are not likely to be eased by Easter in the UK or for travel abroad. She said that it’s “highly unlikely” that hotels or self-catering accommodation will be open at the start of April. 

The news got worse when she said that it was unlikely that overseas holidays would be possible in the summer. I find it hard to believe that they will make travel illegal for the next 6 months. Hopefully, it just refers to unrestricted travel, though 3 tests and a minimum of 5-10 quarantine is enough to put most people off. Otherwise, if we can’t travel even after we have been vaccinated to countries with a low risk of covid, then how will we ever get out of this situation, as Covid and new variants are always going to be here?

However, she said “staycations” might be possible although it would depend on the Covid data nearer the time. I have to say this seems way over the top given that summer lasts until the end of August – over 6 months away. By which time the entire adult population should be vaccinated according to current calculations. If pubs and bars are open, I can’t see how you could not allow hotels to also open – after all, how is it any more risky to stay in a hotel than go to a hotel restaurant or bar? Hotels generally have very strict protocols for Covid prevention judging by the ones I have stayed in. 

With many scientists believing that data will prove the current vaccines do protect against new variants in terms of serious illness, this seems an incredibly pessimistic outlook. To say we “may” be lucky to be able to stay away from home overnight in Scotland by August, but then again we might all be still stuck at home seems far too gloomy. Let’s hope that the picture for travel changes as more people get vaccinated both here and abroad. 

What do you think? Will the government try to stop us having staycations in summer 2021? And should they if cases have fallen and all the vulnerable are vaccinated? Let us know in the comments below. 

 

£1200 for testing positive in quarantine

I feel sorry for anyone that has to travel abroad right now. Sadly there are still situations where people have to fly and are legally allowed to do so, or are still trying to return home from red list countries after all direct flights were cancelled. As well as facing a huge hotel bill of £1,750 for 10 nights potentially in an Ibis, the government has now revealed what will happen if you test positive. 

You are tested on day 2 and 8 of the quarantine. If you test positive on day 8, then you have to pay an extra £304 for two extra nights on top of the 11 nights (10 days) that you have to do. If you are unlucky enough to test positive on day 2, then you are going to face another whopping bill for £1,216 for an extra 8 nights. This works out at £156 a night.

Again, this feels like people unlucky to be ill, are being further gouged. The hotel rooms on average cost around £60 a night although some of the higher-end ones such as the Renaissance and Radisson Blu are more like £100. But let’s be honest, unless the government has negotiated a terrible deal, they will not be paying the standard rates given the number of hotel rooms they are booking. You get three meals a day included and there’s security, but it still feels like people are paying way more than they should have. People could now end up stranded abroad as they simply can’t afford to risk coming home to a potentially ~£3000 bill for quarantine. 

 

17 Comments on "NEWS: BA partner with Dettol, Scots told not to book for Easter & Loophole in Scotland’s quarantine & £1200 for testing positive"

  1. “Either protect the country properly or fall in the line with the English rules to make travel less confusing.”
    Who is writing this? Have the “English rules” been protecting the country properly?

    • The English rules about quarantine. Nothing else is being discussed. My point is why have two sets of rules, where one is virtually pointless since the majority of travellers can get round it by flying indirect. For people who absolutely have to travel the rules are incredibly complicated. So much so that Border Force didn’t understand them and told people to hotel quarantine in Scotland when they didn’t have to. That’s the point I’m making. The Scottish quarantine rules are on paper stricter but apply to virtually the same amount of cases as England. So why make it more confusing than it needs to be?

  2. The figure for Covid 19 fatalities in the UK is 0.16% of the population, which means 99.84% of the population hasn’t died from it. Almost everyone who catches the virus recovers from it. That figure itself is fallacious since people dying of all sorts of conditions (one from bowel cancer of my personal acquaintance) had contracted Covid 19 within the previous 28 days, and that means they are included in the list even though coronovirus had no bearing on their demise. Writing or talking of making travel or anything else safe will continue to feed the hysteria surrounding the virus, delaying a return to some sort of normal life. When the history of this is written, it will make plain that more people died from higher levels of suicide, heart attacks, strokes and cancer than from the virus, and that the ocean and rivers are yet more polluted from plastic waste with 100,000,000 non recyclable masks entering the environment weekly from the UK alone.

    • If things are being measured, they need to be looked at with the reason for the measurement being understood.

      The number of people – yes, people, not just numbers – that have died within 28 days of a positive test isn’t about deaths from Covid, it’s an indication of the spread of the disease.

      Comparing the figure with figures from other countries to ‘prove how crap our response has been’ is also fallacious, without any understanding of the measurements being used in other countries.
      History, surely, will show that the biggest loss in this period is going to be in tolerance, understanding and common sense, fuelled by social media, gullibility and stupidity

      • I believe the biggest loss will be the chances and aspirations of young people, already diminished from the deprivation which Brexit is imposing with the removal of Erasmus and the chance to live, love and work in the real Europe in order to attempt to give a few more months to those who are close to the end. For those with comfortable employment or reasonable wealth, it’s nigh on impossible to imagine the despair in which many young people find themselves.

  3. I am hopeful that we will be allowed to take UK staycations this summer, as the warm weather really helped with people staying outdoors and killing the virus on surfaces last year. Add in the vaccines and you would think the number of cases would be lower this year. Fingers crossed!!

  4. Sturgeon is a politician. she has no interest in people’s welfare.She is only interested in stirring up differences with Westminster. There is no logic in the SNP’s dictat.

  5. Lockdown until cases fall below 1000 a day. Now consider 400,000 tests a day being proposed to reopen schools. Plus the need for triple testing for even sanctioned travel. False positives alone will easily get you to over 1000 ‘cases’ a day in perpetuity. There is no end to this until people put an end to this. We can only hope a strong punitive signal is sent in local elections that focuses the minds of Tory backbenchers. Johnson and his cabal will continue to villainously ruin our lives unless stopped.

    • Hear Hear, sadly there needs to be a swing away from the Tories here of over 40 %. I am totally disenfranchised. The maths are simple as shown above. The target cannot be met and the Professors (not the scientists) who have exclusive use of the press platforms will prevail.

  6. Two travellers heading to LHR via Dubai, one from Red List country.
    They sit together for the 8 hour flight and on arrival at LHR only one goes in to Quarantine, where’s the sense in that if an infection has transferred Michele

  7. Is there a typo in this paragraph? I’m guessing the first day 8 should actually be day 2?
    “You are tested on day 2 and 8 of the quarantine. If you test positive on *day 8*, then you have to pay an extra £304 for two extra nights on top of the 11 nights (10 days) that you have to do. If you are unlucky enough to test positive on *day 8*, then you are going to face another whopping bill for £1,216 for an extra 8 nights. This works out at £156 a night.”

  8. I don’t think this comment reflects what the selected quotes say:
    “If these rules are here for safety – how can you possibly say that someone flying direct into Scotland from the US must pay £1750 for hotel quarantine, whereas someone on one ticket from the US who connects in the UK or Dublin, can self-isolate? ”
    The second selected quote says:
    “If you arrive in Scotland from within the Common Travel Area, but have been in a country *not* on the acute risk list in the 10 days before your arrival, you must self-isolate.”
    I have starred the salient word that seems to have been missed.

  9. I think Ms Sturgeon is playing a political game. She sounds harsh now and says there will be no summer holidays, and then in a couple of months time ( just in time for the Scottish Parliament elections in May) she will say ‘ Hurrah we’ve done such a great job in Scotland controlling the virus you can go on summer holidays.’ Everyone is supposed to cheer and she wins big in the election.
    I certainly am planning a late summer trip and I will tune her out for now.

  10. “The point scoring between nations and ill-thought-out policies need to stop. Either protect the country properly or fall in line with the English rules to make travel less confusing.” If only Boris (the Master of ill-thought-out policies and “u-turns”) had the moral fibre to take the hard decisions the UK would not have a Red List but would have a “Scottish Style”, full-blown Quarantine, as was wanted by many in the English Cabinet.

    • But the point is that the Scottish system is only about 10% more effective than the UK one since most arrivals are indirect so don’t have to quarantine due to the loophole!

    • The Loopholes only exist because the English Government refuses to discuss them with the Scottish Government. I am sorry that you feel we are in the wrong and should “tow the English line”, at the potential cost of Scottish lives, simply to the system a little less confusing.

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