News & offers: BA B777 Club Suites, new First, start date for A350, to Asia from £1347, Avios changes, UK Bali flights

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British Airways B777 Club Suites bookable & reduced first cabin

A couple of days ago we revealed the potential destinations of the refurbished B777-200s. It now appears that these are bookable, although as always don’t rely on getting these seats as it could easily change! The seat maps are now available and showing something rather interesting….

This is the seat map for First on a B777-200. Currently, there are 14 seats, as we predicted it is now showing only 8 seats in First. Given the change in the number of seats, it would support our belief that BA will put the new First seats on these aircraft at the same time as the Club Suites. Obviously, at this point, it is still speculation. The new First seats are based on those on the B787 with some improvements. I am also pretty sure they will have to make it have a door given the new Club Suites have one.

Here is the Club Suites seat map for the B777-200:


This video gives a good idea of how the cabins will look – this is the A350 version of the Club Suites:

The two B777s registration numbers, G-RAES and G-VIIA due to have the new Club Suites, are currently fly to the following destinations:

  • Seattle (SEA)
  • Dallas (DFW)
  • Boston (BOS)
  • Kuwait City (KWI)
  • New York (JFK)
  • Atlanta (ATL)
  • Dubai (DXB)
  • Abuja (ABV)
  • Nassau (NAS)
  • Tel Aviv (TLV)

So far the seats have appeared to JFK in late December, Tel Aviv in January and Nairobi in mid-February. New York is scheduled from 27 October. The flights with the new seats are showing as

  • BA177 London to New York departing 1:00PM arriving 5:10PM
  • BA174 New York to London departing 7:50PM arriving 6:50AM (+1 day)

There will be a second B777 with Club Suites towards the end of the year Egypt is showing a second flight per day to JFK with the new seats. You are best to check the seat map at the time of booking as the flight numbers vary.

You can look at the seat maps as part of the booking process on to see if you have the new Club Suite layout.

BA A350 long haul start date brought forward

BA were due to start long haul services with their A350-1000 on 1 October to Toronto and then Dubai shortly afterwards on the 8 October.

London Air Travel revealed last night that the start date has been brought forward to 2 September 2019 on the Dubai route. The A350-1000 is due to operate flights BA106 & 107 on the Dubai route.

UK to Asia business class fares from £1347

cheap flights shanghai and beijing

Shanghai skyline

For once, there are some well-priced fares from the UK to Asia rather than having to trek over to Scandinavia.

  • London to Beijing £1347 (China Southern)
  • London to Shanghai £1357 (China Southern)
  • London to Seoul £1286 (Lufthansa)

You may be somewhat reluctant to book China Southern if you don’t know much about them. However, they are part of Sky Team (until the end of this year) and our reviewer was very impressed with them. You can read her review here.

China Southern B777 business class

The China Southern flights either route via Amsterdam or with a connection in China. There only appears to be availability until the end of September currently. You can book direct with China Southern or find the cheapest prices for online travel agents using Skyscanner.

Lufthansa A350

The Lufthansa fare rules are:

  • Travel: From mid-October 2019
  • Minimum stay: 6 nights
  • Maximum stay: 12 months
  • Transfers: Unlimited
  • Stopovers: 1 in each direction for £75 each
  • Refundable: No
  • Changeable: For a fee

You can book direct with Lufthansa here or find the cheapest online travel agent price with Skyscanner.


Avios changesAvios bonus

A few days ago we talked about the new option for BA short-haul Avios flights to pay as little as £1 in fees in exchange for spending more Avios. Now it seems that there have been some unintended (hopefully) consequences from the change. Up until now, if you book a long-haul flight with a domestic connection on Avios, you have always paid the same as flying direct from London. Since the recent change, this appears to have gone and now it is costing 10,000 extra versus direct from London in business class and without any reduction in taxes. It only affects people who qualify for RFS – Reward flights savers – you need to have collected at least 1 Avios in the last 12 months to qualify.

Hopefully, this is just a mistake that will get corrected.

HT: Head for Points

London loses direct flights from Bali

Garuda business class

Garuda Indonesia had fairly recently launched a direct flight to London from Bali which was very useful. It only went one way as you had to stop in Jakatart when outbound from London. Sadly this option to fly back direct has disappeared. I have never known an airline make so many changes! One minute they were flying from London, then they stopped flying from the UK, then they were back in the UK, then flying direct from Bali. The moral of the story is don’t book Garuda if you don’t have a degree of flexibility on your routeing! You can read our reader review of Garuda Indonesia business class here. 

The existing 3 weekly 777-300ER Jakarta – London Heathrow – Denpasar is being revised to Denpasar – Medan Kuala Namu – London Heathrow. The first flight of the revised routing on 16 July 19 will be operated by A330-200, switching to B777-300ER from 18 July 19, and switches back to A330-200 from 8 August 19 (except selected dates).

5 Comments on "News & offers: BA B777 Club Suites, new First, start date for A350, to Asia from £1347, Avios changes, UK Bali flights"

  1. Interesting on the seats. I have had my seats changed on a 777 LGW – Antigua next March from row 1 to row 10. This indicates a four class plane although they are not yet selling first tickets. I wonder what is going on?

    • They do sometimes use 4 class planes without selling first. Although it could just be a change of plane and they have randomly given you row 10. Looking at the seat map give some clues.

  2. Richard Gordon | 19 July 2019 at 2:20 pm | Reply

    I wonder if BA will use this opportunity to densify the rest of the aircraft – 10-abeast in Y like Gatters, and update all the IFE.

  3. As of this week BA have finally paid for the rights to use the in-flight entertainment on B777 & A350s operating the London – Madrid route.

  4. ClaytonTheCruton | 20 July 2019 at 7:39 am | Reply

    @WILL – As someone with LGW as my home airport don’t be surprised if it changes another two times between now and then. They are known to be quite fluid with plane allocation which went through a peak of craziness when they started the densification program( which I ‘think’ is at least completed now although don’t quote me on that). My record stands at 5 changes of aircraft on a booking made 10 months out! I’ve also been approached in the lounge to be advised of a last minute change of aircraft coz ours went tech and asked on seat preference as the new one was on the old config.

    As Michele said the seat map should help. Updated/ densified LGW birds will have 40 J 54 WTP & be 10 abreast down the back. Old ones are 48 J 12 WTP and 9 wide in economy. If they’ve thrown a 4 class on then most the time you get F seats with Club service & it’s usually pot luck( with some pref’ given to Golds / GGL’s I believe) on who gets the F seats. I don’t believe they do F to Antigua from LGW. As much as it would be amazing for them to throw one of the 777s with the new Club suites into LGW history tells us it’s unlikely and if they were then it would probably do the one a day LGW-JFK route as that’s a named destination for them already. I will of course keep my fingers crossed for you for some minor miracle!

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