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READER QUESTION: Avios bookings with domestic connections and separate BA tickets FAQs

  • 13/08/2023
  • Michele

Today’s question is from reader Neil. If you would like to submit a question that is suitably generic (I sadly don’t have time to answer individual queries), please use the contact us form under “About us” above.

I’ve looked at using my Avios to use on BA flights but as I live in Scotland with my closest airport being Aberdeen I would need to use Avios to Heathrow and then from Heathrow onward to another destination.

For readers outside of the Heathrow or Gatwick catchment area I think an article explaining the use of  Avios on multiple journeys on the same day would be really useful and informative. Questions such as can the different PNRs be linked? , If not possible what suggested connecting times to the second flight etc, can the baggage go all the way through or does it have to collected after flight one and checked in again? What happens if one flight is delayed and there is a missed flight?

I’ll divide this into two parts, the first being about booking Avios tickets from the regions. The second will be about what happens when you have two separate bookings for connecting flights on BA.

 

In this post:

  • Booking Avios from the regions
  • FAQs – two separate bookings for connecting flights on BA
    • Can I check my luggage all the way through on separate BA tickets?
    • Can I link my PNRs (bookings)?
    • Can I drop the last segment of a trip?
    • How much time should I allow between flights?
    • Could I start my journey from London instead of my ticketed departure point?
    • What happens if one flight is delayed and there is a missed flight?

Booking Avios from the regions

Terminal 3 of Manchester airport (MAN)

You get a “free” domestic connection when booking a UK domestic connection to/from London to connect to a long-haul flight. When I say free,  I mean that no additional Avios are required for this. You will still have to pay the additional tax element of the domestic departure airport.

The domestic airports included are:

  • Inverness
  • Aberdeen
  • Glasgow
  • Edinburgh
  • Newcastle
  • Manchester
  • Jersey
  • Belfast

 

Usually, they should show up if you search the full route so, Aberdeen to New York, for example. However, sometimes you need to choose the “stopover” option to see full availability for the domestic legs, then select them separately. This does not apply to short-haul connections from domestic, where you would need to pay the full price. However, it is possible to book them as one ticket. 

If, however, you wanted to add an Avios booking from a regional airport to a cash ticket or vice versa, you would need to do this separately. See below for the issues that two separate tickets can cause. 

 

 

FAQs – two separate bookings for connecting flights on BA

Can I check my luggage all the way through on separate BA tickets?

Sadly BA does not offer this even for its own tickets, which I find ridiculous. Occasionally you may find an agent will do it at an outstation, but it is extremely rare, so do not count on it. It is less of an issue if you fly a different oneworld airline, such as Qatar, on the first leg, as they will usually check luggage all the way through. But each airline has different rules so you should always check first. 

 

Can I link my PNRs (bookings)?

Yes, you can link your PNRs by calling BA. However, this does not allow you to check luggage through or provide any protection if you miss a flight. It is mainly of use if travelling with someone on a separate booking, so that BA can see you are travelling together. This allows a Gold member to chose seats for someone else on a separate ticket but you will need to also do this by calling BA and it can take some time for them to action it. 

 

Can I drop the last segment of a trip?

Technically, you should not, and BA could recalculate the fare and charge you the difference. If you only did it as a one-off, as perhaps you were feeling ill, it is unlikely BA would come after you. However, unless you have an overnight segment, your bags will be checked all the way through, so you can only do this if you have hand baggage or a night stop. You will need to request that your bags are only checked through to the airport of the night stop. Heathrow does not usually store bags on overnight transfers so it would probably be done automatically, but always best to confirm it. 

 

How much time should I allow between flights?

This will depend on whether you have to pick luggage up and recheck it, change terminals, have access to the First Wing for T5 etc.

The minimum official connecting time is being raised to 75 minutes by BA just in terminal 5, and even then, there will still be a lot of people that will miss their onward flight. I always try to build in an overnight where I can to make it easier. So, I would normally fly down the night before a long haul flight. If you don’t, it depends on what your appetite for risk is. Personally, I would not risk anything less than 3 hours. I’d much rather have time to enjoy the lounge rather than end up running to the gate and arriving in a sweaty heap on the plane!

 

Could I start my journey from London instead of my ticketed departure point?

Sometimes plans change, but if you do not take the first flight of your journey, the entire booking will be cancelled as you will be a no-show. You could try and change the starting point with BA, but they will re-price the whole journey. The only exception would be if the first flight was cancelled or substantially delayed, then it is certainly worth asking if you can start at the next airport if you can get there. I have managed this before when there were substantial delays at my starting airport that meant I would not make my flight. Since I hadn’t actually left to get to the start point, it worked out well!

 

What happens if one flight is delayed and there is a missed flight?

Unfortunately, you have no protection whatsoever. Sometimes, BA will take pity on you if something extraordinary has prevented you from making the flights, which is known as the flat tyre rule. But you will need to contact them as soon as you are aware of the problem. Don’t wait until you have missed the flight.

The conditions of carriage state: “3c4) If you need to change any aspect of your transportation because of events beyond your control, you must contact us as soon as possible. We will use reasonable efforts to transport you to your next stopover or final destination, without re-calculating the fare.”

If you are connecting onto a Club Europe flight or have an economy plus ticket, there is something called Same Day Change, which you can do for most bookings free of charge up to one hour before departure. So if you know it will be very risky, or you will definitely miss it, it is worth looking at changing your flight free of charge in Manage My Booking. There are certain exceptions, such as open-jaw flights. This is one of the reasons you should always have travel insurance, as you would be able to claim back for new flights on many policies. 

 

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15 comments
  1. Jo says:
    13/08/2023 at 7:08 am

    We have had separate bookings for domestic and international flights with BA and have never had a problem with the luggage going to the final destination.

    1. Michele says:
      13/08/2023 at 8:44 am

      You’ve definitely been lucky as it’s against BA policy if they are not on the same ticket. This changed a number of years ago prior to Covid.

  2. Linda says:
    13/08/2023 at 8:03 am

    I’m a tad confused by this article. I’m flying MAN to LHR one day, then LHR to DEN the next, all on one booking, not separate codes and BA did that with no issue using Avios. So your Aberdeen guy could do the same. What is not clear is whether the luggage will be checked all the way through. When we had a similar trip from Maldives to LHR overnight, next morning onward to MAN, the bags were stored overnight in Heathrow. Will this happen again?

    1. Michele says:
      13/08/2023 at 8:43 am

      Yes he could fly the whole way on Avios but there are times when part of the journey is not available on Avios which is what I covered. If you are all on one ticket the luggage is checked all the way through.

  3. Richard says:
    13/08/2023 at 8:47 am

    Hi Michelle,

    I seemed to be charged fewer taxes and fees when I included an internal connection.

    Both these examples used a BA 241, both were business class and both travellers were blue members.

    2022 booking for 2023 departure (LHR-LAS-LHR) cost £844.06 per person.

    2023 booking for 2024 departure (MAN-LHR-LAS-LHR-MAN) cost £840.00 per person.

    Richard

    1. Michele says:
      13/08/2023 at 9:05 am

      That could be down to a change in the fees rather than adding on MAN as they seem to fluctuate all the time. Heathrow had to reduce its fees slightly recently so that could be one reason.

  4. Kieran says:
    13/08/2023 at 10:26 am

    One other quirk is that for one way tickets such as EDI-LHR-MIA, you can book the feeder leg EDI-LHR in Business and it doesn’t cost any additional Avios for the connection.

    I did this recently for a LHR-MIA in Economy and got the connection in business for free. I also did likewise yesterday for Orlando with the connection in business for free.

    I think this only works with two separate tickets for inbound and outbound.

    1. Michele says:
      13/08/2023 at 10:41 am

      Domestic connections are free on long haul whether return or one way.

      1. Kieran Watt says:
        13/08/2023 at 6:07 pm

        Hi Michele, yes but my point is the feeder flights don’t cost any more to fly in Business versus Economy.

        1. Michele says:
          14/08/2023 at 5:37 pm

          Ah OK. I misunderstood.

  5. Simon Morgan says:
    13/08/2023 at 12:12 pm

    Hi Michelle:

    Re linking bookings, if one pax is say a BA Gold member and the other Blue, and you link the bookings (that were made months apart), can the Gold member make a seat booking for free for the blue pax?

    Thanks, Simon

    1. Michele says:
      13/08/2023 at 12:47 pm

      Yes that’s one of the benefits of linking bookings that does work but you need to call up to do it. As far as I know they still send it off somewhere to assign the seats but it usually works.

  6. Christine says:
    13/08/2023 at 9:17 pm

    We travel from Glasgow and connect at Heathrow. My gripe is that with connecting flights, we never get the “app upgrade offers” that pop up in the app when a journey has only a single leg. This leaves us having to phone up or ask at check-in if we want to upgrade.

    Do you know if this is an IT thing?

    1. Michele says:
      14/08/2023 at 5:34 pm

      I’m not sure to be honest but I suspect it is as connecting flights prevents some other Manage my Booking features

  7. John says:
    14/08/2023 at 2:51 pm

    If I book flights to SYD on my Amex 2-4-1 out of MAN (via LHR), is it possible to amend just the LHR-MAN return leg to the next day so that my checked-in luggage doesn’t go all the way through? Understand I would need to call BA, but wondering if anyone else has had the same experience.
    And then if I needed to cancel that leg for legitimate reasons, I assume it could risk re-pricing the entire trip?

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