Turning left for less Turning left for less
  • Home
  • Beginners guide
  • Reviews
    • Hotel reviews
    • Flight reviews
    • Airline Lounge Reviews
    • Travel companies, luggage, travel tech & apps
    • Destination Dining
  • Destinations
    • Barbados
    • Las Vegas
    • Alicante
    • Marbella
    • All other destinations
  • About us
    • Meet the Team
    • Contact us
    • Privacy & Disclosure
      • Join our email list & data protection
    • Youtube and Podcast
  • BOOKING ENQUIRY
Categories
  • Air France
  • Airlines
  • Airport hotels
  • American Airlines
  • Avios
  • Black Friday 23
  • Black Friday 24
  • British Airways
  • British Airways Executive Club
  • Business class
  • Cashback
  • competition
  • Credit cards
  • cruises
  • Destinations
  • Emirates
  • Etihad
  • Finnair
  • First class
  • General
  • Guide
  • Heathrow and Gatwick
  • Hilton
  • hotels
  • IHG
  • London hotels
  • Lounges
  • Marriott
  • Michelin star dining
  • News
  • Offers
  • Oneworld
  • parking
  • Qatar
  • reader questions
  • Reader review
  • Reviews
  • Skyteam
  • Star Alliance
  • Starwood
  • This Week in Travel
  • Trains
  • UK country hotels
  • UK hotels
  • USA
  • Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Atlantic Flying Club
Turning left for less Turning left for less
Turning left for less Turning left for less
  • Home
  • Beginners guide
  • Reviews
    • Hotel reviews
    • Flight reviews
    • Airline Lounge Reviews
    • Travel companies, luggage, travel tech & apps
    • Destination Dining
  • Destinations
    • Barbados
    • Las Vegas
    • Alicante
    • Marbella
    • All other destinations
  • About us
    • Meet the Team
    • Contact us
    • Privacy & Disclosure
      • Join our email list & data protection
    • Youtube and Podcast
  • BOOKING ENQUIRY
  • Reviews

REVIEW: This isn’t any short haul flight…this is a Qatar Airways short haul flight in first/business class

  • 02/05/2023
  • Michele

Qatar Airways market their short-haul flights as a first class rather than business class, although really it is business class onboard. The good news is that you get first class tier points, so a short return flight from Doha to Dubai can net you 120 tier points as it’s 60 each way for first class. So it’s definitely worth considering flying via Doha for the extra tier points if you need them to other places in the Middle East. 

In this review, I will look at both directions of the flights. These flights were flown in late 2022. I also look at the frequent flyer lounges for Qatar in Doha and the Ahlan business lounge in Dubai. 

 

In this post:

  • Booking
  •  
  • Doha to Dubai A330
    • Lounge
    • Flight – Seats and food/drink
  • Dubai to Doha B787
    • Ahlan lounge
    • Flight – cabin and food/drink
  • Conclusion

Booking

This was part of a bargain fare from Oslo to Dubai for around £1150. The current price is around £1300 with Qatar which is still not bad for the 400 tier points you’d get if you credit to BA. You can check availability and prices on qatarairways.com here. However, they net a much rate of Avios than flying on BA. 

These fares are light fares which means that unless you have status, you can’t book a seat or use the lounges. You can pay for both, though. If you have status, then you can still select a seat and use the frequent flyer lounges.

 

Doha to Dubai A330

Lounge

Qatar Platinum lounge Doha Dining area
Qatar Platinum lounge Doha Dining area

As it was a light fare I could not use the Al Safwa First class lounge, but if you had a non-light fare you could use the lounge. You can read about the Al Safwa Lounge in this review.

I did try on the day and was refused. I followed up with Qatar and they confirmed it was correct. They said

The Business Lite fare ticket does not include lounge access. As Dubai is only 2 cabins – Business and Economy – due to cabin ineligibility the ticket was issued in First Class cabin with Business Fare. While booking the itinerary, the website will show the sectors and the benefits.

As I have status with British Airways, I could use the Platinum lounge which is for those with BA Gold/OWE Emerald. I thought the lounge was almost as good as Al Mourjan, although it can get busy. However, this should improve when the new North lounges open.

The lounge has a bar which serves champagne and a full range of alcoholic drinks. The restaurant is self-service and you can order via your mobile as well. If you have silver status, you can use the Gold lounge. 

Qatar Gold lounge Doha South seats
Qatar Gold lounge Doha South seats

You can read my review of the lounges here.

 

Flight – Seats and food/drink

Qatar A330 business (first) cabin

This flight was on an A330 which I would generally avoid for long haul on Qatar unless it was a day flight. This is because the seats are in a 2-2-2 configuration and quite narrow, particularly in the foot well.

Small foot well

However, for a short flight, they were fantastic!

 

There were five rows of First/business class and I was in 4F. I chose the middle for easier aisle access, although there was enough room that you could get out providing someone was not fully reclined. 

Even for such a short flight you still had a quilt and cushion/pillow. There were no amenity kits though. You could adjust your seat in a number of ways including a separate leg rest which made it a very comfortable short haul flight!

The service started with traditional Arabic coffee and dates. Then a welcome drink was offered with the Diptyque towels (see return for picture). I went for the lemon mint drink which is very refreshing and slightly tart but still sweet.

The menu only had two choices for this hour-long flight which was fair enough. Both sounded pretty good to me. 

They did not have the normal wine list that you get on long haul, but they did have a full selection with 2 whites, 2 reds and champagne plus spirits. 

I found the platter very tasty and perfect for this length of flight as you didn’t have to rush your meal. The food came out crisp and light as if it was freshly cooked rather than reheated. 

I went for the Karak chai to drink, which if you have never tried it, I highly recommend if you like chai latte. It’s pretty similar in terms of being a spiced milky tea drink. It was also impressive to see cappuccino and espresso on short haul. 

There was a full range of inflight entertainment and noise cancelling headphones were provided. 

The screens were large and had good definition. The controls had a handset with a separate screen which I find a bit slower to respond, but useful for having the map on a separate device.

 

Dubai to Doha B787

Ahlan lounge

This is one of my favourite lounges in Dubai, so I was pleased to see I was able to access it on a lite ticket with Qatar through my status.

The lounge felt relaxed and quiet when I was there. It was no problem getting somewhere comfortable to sit. There are also massage chairs and showers if you want to relax or freshen up. You can buy lounge access here too. There is a buffet and a full menu as well.

I liked the attractive supply of baklava on ornate gold trolleys. 

Here is the menu:

I thought the food menu was very impressive, and there was a good choice of drinks, if a little bit dull in their brand selections. 

I was planning to eat on the plane, so I just had a watermelon juice and a cappuccino.

 

Flight – cabin and food/drink

This flight was on the older B787, which does not have suites, but I actually find these seats more comfortable, although a lot less private. They are arranged in a 1-2-1 configuration. 

Again the service started with Arabic coffee and dates followed by whatever welcome drink you wanted. Being early morning, I went for the lemon-mint drink. This was accompanied by the Diptyque refreshing towel, which I adore the scent of. The crew member serving me was very friendly and attentive. offering to help me lift my bag into the overhead bin. 

The seat went fully flat, and each element could be adjusted individually, as it should be! This is my favourite of the Qatar seats (along with the A380 and A350 which are very similar) in terms of comfort. 

They also have lots of storage with a side bin big enough to store a small bag, and under the armrest, there is room for headphones (noise-cancelling ones supplied) and a bottle of water. There is a second storage place for a bottle of water by the magazine rack.  

The foot well is much larger on the B787 than the A330.

Again there was a full selection of inflight entertainment with a really large screen with high definition.

You can even use your mobile to control the entertainment so you don’t need to touch anything. If you didn’t want to, you could also use the touchscreen remote supplied. For charging, there was a USB and multi-country socket. 

 

The menu was similar to the outbound flight with a choice of platters, one being vegetarian.

Again the drinks were more limited than on long haul:

The breakfast platter was tasty, although it would be small for those that like a hearty breakfast! I enjoyed a mango juice with my platter and my usual Karak Chai in cardamom. 

On arrival, we did have a bus gate which, as regular readers know, I really dislike. This seems to be a regular situation at Doha, but now the extension of the north of the terminal is open, hopefully this will reduce. However, they do know how to do bus gates properly with a separate first class bus with seats for everyone.

 

Conclusion

For these very short flights, I was more than happy with both the lounges and the service on board. Qatar Airways has a shortage of aircraft which means they can often use long haul aircraft on short haul or sometimes do when loads necessitate it. However, they do have a number of short haul aircraft on order, which will likely change the shorter flights back to single aisle aircraft eventually. But you would still get a similar service on board. The first of the airline’s B737 MAX aircraft arrived a couple of weeks ago with a number still to be delivered. 

Like this:

Like Loading...
Tweet
Share
Pin6
Share
Reddit
WhatsApp
Pocket
Email
Flip
6 Shares
Related Topics
  • business class
  • oneworld
  • qatar airways
Michele

Previous Article
  • News

NEWS: US extends vaccine requirement, Etihad’s new seats for B787 and Virgin allow status passengers to use Upper Class Wing

  • 30/04/2023
  • Michele
View Post
Next Article
  • News
  • Offers

NEWS & OFFERS: US finally removes vaccine requirement, Massive Flash Marriott 40k bonus and IHG Flash sale

  • 02/05/2023
  • Michele
View Post
7 comments
  1. Clayton says:
    02/05/2023 at 7:36 am

    Sooooo. If I was flying LHR/ LGW-DOH-HAN-DOH-LHR/LGW all in Y & I made use of a schedule that took a, lets say, ludicrous 35 hours to then do a DOH-DUB-DOH on either the OB or IB leg. Would the fact I’ve then flown a segment marketed as F directly before my connecting leg qualify me to use the Al Safwa F lounge prior to boarding my flight back to the UK? Under BA rules it would but QR are notoriously tight on lounge access as we all know.

    1. Michele says:
      02/05/2023 at 9:51 am

      Only if it was not a light fare.

  2. Duncan says:
    02/05/2023 at 8:15 am

    Did you attempt to use the Al Safwa lounge in DOH?

    Even though you travelled from and to Oslo on a lite fare – ‘P’ fare basis – the fare basis for the First Class sectors change to ‘A’ which, according to Qatar’s own information, appears to give you lounge access to their own branded lounges.

    https://www.qatarairways.com/tradeportal/en/NewFareFamilies.html

    (I had no problems accessing the Al Safwa lounge a couple of months ago on a ‘Z’ First Class redemption)

    1. Michele says:
      02/05/2023 at 9:50 am

      Yes I did. And was denied. I followed this up with Qatar and they confirmed that you do not get access even for the First class part which was ticketed in A.

      1. Duncan says:
        02/05/2023 at 11:41 am

        Thanks, that’s interesting.

        I’m in the process of planning a trip next March. One of my options is a transit in Doha before continuing on to Abu Dhabi and the Far East, so that information will help with my decision making.
        (Hopefully the new terminal in Abu Dhabi will be open by then)

  3. RR says:
    02/05/2023 at 10:04 am

    Hi Michelle. Great review thanks. 120 points round trip?

    1. Michele says:
      02/05/2023 at 10:05 am

      For the first class part. 60 each way.

Comments are closed.

Subscribe to Turning Left for Less

Subscribe

* indicates required
Choose One Subscription Type

BOOK YOUR DREAM TRIP HERE

Want to book your hotel with extra perks such as upgrades and free breakfast? Need help booking flights? Our experts at Winged Boots can help.

Visit our booking page here

RFF
Turning Left For Less on Instagram

turningleftforless

Champagne travel on a Prosecco budget. UK blog on how to travel in luxury for less. Forbes contributor. #avgeek #luxurytravel #miles #luxuryhotel

HOTEL REVIEW Newly Opened 5 Star Park Hyatt River HOTEL REVIEW

Newly Opened 5 Star Park Hyatt River Thames

Link in bio

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #parkhyatt #parkhyattriverthames #london
HOTEL REVIEW Fairmont Windsor Park – Our Honest HOTEL REVIEW

Fairmont Windsor Park – Our Honest Spa Stay Review

Link in bio

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #fairmont #fairmontwindsorpark #windsor
FLIGHT REVIEW Qatar Airways A350 Q-suite Includin FLIGHT REVIEW

Qatar Airways A350 Q-suite Including Al Mourjan lounge by Mark Hopwood

Link in bio

#flightreview #businessclass #luxurytravel #travelreview #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #instaaviation #avgeek #qatarairways #qatar #almourjanlounge #qsuite
LOUNGE REVIEW Air Canada’s refurbished London H LOUNGE REVIEW

Air Canada’s refurbished London Heathrow T2 Maple Leaf lounge

Link in bio

#businessclass #luxurytravel #travelreview #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #instaaviation #avgeek #loungereview #aircanada #heathrow
HOTEL REVIEW Crowne Plaza Dublin Airport – best HOTEL REVIEW

Crowne Plaza Dublin Airport – best of a bad bunch?

Link in bio

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #crowneplaza #crowneplazahotel #crowneplazadublinairport #dublin
FLIGHT REVIEW ITA Rome to Dubai – When Business FLIGHT REVIEW

ITA Rome to Dubai – When Business Class Feels More Like First Class – ITA’s A321neo Surprises!

Link in bio

#flightreview #businessclass #luxurytravel #travelreview #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #instaaviation #avgeek #ita #itaairways
FLIGHT REVIEW Virgin Atlantic Business Class From FLIGHT REVIEW

Virgin Atlantic Business Class From London to Atlanta – “I Was Wrong”

Link in bio

#flightreview #businessclass #luxurytravel #travelreview #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #instaaviation #avgeek #virginatlantic #virgin #upperclass
HOTEL REVIEW Le Royal Meridien, Dubai – Genuine HOTEL REVIEW

Le Royal Meridien, Dubai – Genuinely a Hidden Gem (Why do we keep going back?)

Link in bio

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #leroyalmeridiendubai #leroyalmeridien #dubai #uae
FLIGHT REVIEW ITA Business Class – London City FLIGHT REVIEW

ITA Business Class – London City to Rome – Almost Kicked Off for Taking a Photo!

Link in bio

#flightreview #businessclass #luxurytravel #travelreview #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #instaaviation #avgeek #clubeurope #ita #itaairways #londoncity
HOTEL REVIEW Malmaison Oxford Hotel – A Prison HOTEL REVIEW

Malmaison Oxford Hotel – A Prison That You Won’t Want to Escape From

Link in bio 

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #malmaison #malmaisonoxford #malmaisonoxfordprisonhotel #oxford
HOTEL REVIEW Hotel du Vin, Birmingham Link in bi HOTEL REVIEW

Hotel du Vin, Birmingham

Link in bio

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #hotelduvin #hotelduvinbirmingham
FLIGHT REVIEW Gulf Air Business Class Bangkok to FLIGHT REVIEW

Gulf Air Business Class Bangkok to Manchester Via Singapore and Bahrain

Link in bio

#flightreview #businessclass #luxurytravel #travelreview #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #instaaviation #avgeek #gulfair
FLIGHT REVIEW Etihad Business Class – Abu Dhabi FLIGHT REVIEW

Etihad Business Class – Abu Dhabi to London Heathrow After a Cancelled BA Flight

Link in bio

#flightreview #businessclass #luxurytravel #travelreview #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #instaaviation #avgeek #etihad
HOTEL REVIEW Hotel Spinale, Madonna di Campiglio HOTEL REVIEW

Hotel Spinale, Madonna di Campiglio – The Ultimate Ski Retreat?

Link in our bio

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #hotelspinale #hotelspinalemadonnadicampiglio #madonnadicampiglio #skiresort #skichalet
Checking out the new No 1 lounge at @heathrow_airp Checking out the new No 1 lounge at @heathrow_airport T2. Very impressed with the elegant feel to the lounge. It’s definitely a step up from the older style of No1. I’d go as far to say that it looks better than quite a few airline lounges. All drinks are included apart from champagne and there was a good selection of tasty food as well. Full review coming soon. #airportlounge #heathrowairport #luxurytravel #no1lounge
Hotel Review on the blog - Intercontinental O2, Lo Hotel Review on the blog - Intercontinental O2, London & the Cable Car Experience. 

Link in our bio

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #london #intercontinental #intercontinentalo2 #ifscloudcablecar
THE 8 BEST EUROPEAN SKI RESORTS by Turning Left fo THE 8 BEST EUROPEAN SKI RESORTS by Turning Left for Less

Take a look at our handpicked favourites in the article in our bio.

#luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #skiing #skiresort #skiholiday
New hotel review on the blog - Sofitel Kia Ora Moo New hotel review on the blog - Sofitel Kia Ora Moorea Hotel, French Polynesia

Link in bio 

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #sofitel #sofitelkiaoramoorea #frenchpolynesia
Flight review on the blog - Thai Airways from Melb Flight review on the blog - Thai Airways from Melbourne to Bangkok – ‘Old School’ but Classy 🇦🇺✈️🇹🇭

Link in bio

#flightreview #businessclass #luxurytravel #travelreview #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #instaaviation #avgeek #thaiairways #thailand
HOTEL REVIEW 🇺🇸 Nautilus Sonesta Miami Beac HOTEL REVIEW 🇺🇸

Nautilus Sonesta Miami Beach – Boutique Charm Meets Art Deco

Link in bio

#hotelreview #luxurytravel #luxurytravelblog #travelblog #turningleftforless #luxuryhotel #miamibeach #southbeach #miami #nautilussonesta #boutiquehotel
Follow on Instagram
Categories
Contact us

[email protected]

Unit 143857

PO Box 6945

LONDON

W1A 6US

Privacy Policy

Find out about our privacy policy and advertising disclosure here.

Turning left for less
Champagne travel on a Prosecco budget

Input your search keywords and press Enter.

%d